Posts by Phantom Stranger

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Stupid Computer Question

by Big Tex in

jw
friends

with all the viruses bouncing around, i recently acquired a firewall called sygate pro.

this is the first time i've had a firewall, so i don't know anything about them.

but the past week or so i've been trying to figure out some things and i checked "security log" and evidently i've had several intrusions.

Phantom Stranger

One modifier - contacting Microsoft is slow and difficult. Contact Sybase.

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

I hear you, funkyderek - but I gotta ask, why do we need to?

Is that our continuing mission - to boldy go, to seek out and uncover other's ridiculous behaviors and beliefs? I agree that they should be subject to examination... but most of us don't work for Dateline, even though some of us seem to act like it. Investigation (according to my Frank and Joe Hardy Detective Handbook:) is a kind of intrusive and uni-directional activity, with no real interactivity (it's not discussion, which I think was the point of the original thread question).

OK, if I don't agree with them, and I think they're silly, why do I need to rub their nose in it? Then it's not about them being wrong... it's about me being right.

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New Quotes Website layout!!!

by Beans in

hey what do ya'll think about the new layout?

quotes has added a new logo (which i love) language translation and a few neat features!.

http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com .

Phantom Stranger

Nice logo, nice layout, great job, and... the way that the traveling nav bar keeps popping into view as I scroll is really distracting as I read. Perhaps there is a variable in the lag time?

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

I dunno... do we? :)

I live in Stumptown, but I moved here long, long after my departure from the Program. Pretty sure there's a red dot on my address on the territory card though.

So you would only know me from this board... or from my haunts - the Fulton, Chez Jose, Byways, SteppingStone Cafe...

greetings from LittleBeirut (as the Bush family calls it)

PS

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

I've been to the C of E as well, but I think Stephanie and Elvis may have been institutionalized... I think it's gone now.

All Hail McMenamins!

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

QOTD

George Bernard Shaw"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."

Daniel Boorstin"It is not skeptics or explorers but fanatics and ideologues who menace decency and progress. No agnostic ever burned anyone at the stake or tortured a pagan, a heretic, or an unbeliever."

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

I should mention that my observations were not directed at any religious poster in particular (but I could easily have directed them at one poster around here... but not on this thread yet).

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Seattle PI article on Jdubs

by jimbob in

some of it is a joke, cause they say the jw's are a fast growing religion...i'm sure the author of the article only talked to dubs and not ex-dubs to find out the real "truth"...].

the article can be found at this link:.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/136796_jehovah27.html.

Phantom Stranger

Already wrote the editor and the reporter my letter.

Keep in mind that most papers won't print letters without real names attached, even if they withold the names.

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

This may sound a little too "Rodney King-during-the-LA-riots", but why bash anybody?

The main lesson I learned after leaving the Witnesses was that I don't know everything. (OK, so it took me 10 years to really get it...)

The main decision I made afterwards was that I didn't have to go around making sure that everyone else had their s#$% wired tight... that I would have enough to do the rest of my days wiring (and re-wiring:) my own.

There are a lot of former JW's on this board who thought they were right when they were JW's, and they think they're right now, about whatever it is they think they're right about, so they keep telling everyone how right they are, and when they change their mind about that new opinion, then they'll think they're right about the replacement, and they'll spam the fricking board with their newest opinions, all positioned as written-in-stone as the right way to think.

Well, guys, we were all wrong before, so why are you cocky now? Are you suddenly smarter? (More aware, more conscious, I'll buy... but smarter?) Jeez, you know, there are several decaffeinated brands on the market every bit as tasty as the real thing. Lighten up!

If you have opinions, as we all do, why not present them as politely phrased statements of opinion? It's a discussion board, not a venue for showing how "right" you are all the time. (There's a name for people that the\ink they are never wrong... they're engineers :)

I'm not a believer, but I expect there to be discussion about beliefs on a board like this... and I respect each individual's right to be wrong without me yelling at him/her about how wrong he/she is. (Just as I have that same right - we don't listen 'til we're ready anyway.)

And I'll go to great lengths, even go to war and die if need be, for your right to have that opinion or belief free from harassment. (And I'm a Democrat! :)

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Non-believers......... Do they "bash" Believers too hard?

by gumby in

i have been beginning to wonder if those that have come to disbelieve in the bible as god's word, and those who believe in no god at all............use the wrong verbage here.

is it disrespectful to those who believe.... for non-believers to say things against what believers hold so precious?

many have moved on, or..... mentioned they do not post their true feeling here on certain subjects for fear they will be harrassed by others here.. first off....i'll admit i'm a guilty one for doing this very thing but have been wondering if i'm out of line as well as others who post similar ideas in the same type of manner.

Phantom Stranger

Whoops - it double-posted...